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Need another new JazzGM. Exciting young team, maybe a playoff team, probably the best scorer in the league. Someone find someone for this!

Never mind, filled it!

Scott wants back in, any openings?

For how many draft lottos?  ;)

 Zing. I think we probably have an opening. Have him hit me up

Hey I have a friend and coworker whose a big fantasy sports fan etc, interested in joining in. Really dependable, loves the strategy etc. Any openings?

Let me follow up with a few people who are borderline and get back to you. Thanks.

awesome he's asked about it 2 out of the past 3 days so my guy is pretty interested, he spends like 2 hours preparing for fantasy football and is actually working with a guy where he is creating his own algorithm for projected fantasy stats...may not be active on the forums but would be good with trades, attendance, offseason etc which is what we need. Plus he has me right in the office to remind him etc.

Don't forget assistant hawks.

pretty sure that guy vanished, havent heard a peep in forever.

Assistant Hawks is gone lol. Haven't heard from him and hasn't logged in for weeks - I assume he found another league to join.

Please let me know if you have someone interested who would take the Wiz

Not sure if anyone would care, but I'd be open to taking the Wiz and we could hand off the Bucks to a new/returning guy. I dunno if anyone would have an issue with this. If anyone does just say the word.

Open to change teams as well

How bad do you guys want out of the Central, lol

I realized after ur power ranking updates that it's been 30 seasons with the bucks. Think it might be cool to switch it up. Hell, I've got a better shot in the central with the bucks than I do with the Wiz in the Atlantic right now.

After 30 seasons with the same team... I think you deserve a change if you want it.

You are a good man Scott!!!

Well, if you want to, I'll certainly think about it - I just hate to have a team that could compete for a title possibly left un-run.

How many of your own picks have been traded? Just this year's?

I would never leave my team to rot until there was someone to take over.
I just mean if we have a new guy lined up, he could take over my squad and then I'd take the Wiz. Was just a thought.
And yep just this years pick....shocking I know haha

Still looking for a new WizGm. Bug your friends.

I have somebody, known him for a long time he's very reliable.

Pelicans' buddy is going to take over Wizards.

I was going to probably let Jeff switch teams if it happened in the offseason, but he has a good team that could win this year. Makes no sense to throw a new guy at that team mid-season.

Welcome the new WizGM

I think it makes more sense lol. Let the guy take over a team put in place and see how the league is run without having to tweak much with my team.
But hey it's up to the new guy. It really doesn't matter much to me. I was looking at a change of scenery after 30 seasons.

Midseason that just seems like a bad idea to me. You *only* owe your pick from this year?

Yes indeed.

I'll think about it. I would assume the WizGM would prefer to take over the Bucks, but I'll ask him.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Jeff's been around for 30 seasons with the same team and I understand his desire to switch.

If the new guy (sorry don't know a name yet) doesn't want to take over my team then that's cool too. Or if anyone has a valid/reasonable objection then by all means say so and we can drop this idea.
I just thought for my own sanity I'd like to switch it up.

I mean, if you had traded several of your picks I would be concerned. My one concern is that your team is sort of old and it can be tricky to figure out when to sell/rebuild. It's a pretty good team right now which is great for a new player, but that's going to be a rebuilding project fast. Is it still better than inheriting a rebuilding project immediately? Definitely. That said, almost all the key players on that team are 30+, and figuring out when/how to rebuild is tricky

This is why I'm soliciting other people's opinions - I still think a new GM taking over a good team is better than taking over a rebuilding project (especially one which is also without two of its picks...). And Jeff is really active and involved and want to accommodate his desire to switch teams, and he's good at building teams and is probably a good choice for a tough rebuild.

Trying to get out of the hard division. Coward.

I explained the various options to him, just awaiting a reply.

To be honest, we see new GM's take over terrible franchises all the time, it's usually the way it happens so I'm not too worried about the new GM "getting stuck" with a very good veteran Bucks team.

Jeff has been one of the longest serving, most successful GM's in the league, if he'd like to switch teams I think he's more than earned the right to a change of scenery.

/my $0.02

I know I haven't been here long, but I would say that if somebody with a lot of history wants a fresh start and the opportunity presents itself, go with it as long as nothing shady is going on.

Jeff's just a pansy

 lol

Never mind. Still looking for a WizGM. This league "isn't real enough" for him.

damn 4 real ain't that a kick in the nuts lol

Yeah - seemed like a neat guy who was really analytical and into games like this but wasn't going to be a good fit. Would've been a good GM I bet. Oh well.

It's a true story.  :(

Oh how quickly we forget how I crushed the division last year, winning it in a tiebreaker. I'm just taking it easy on all you guys haha   ;)

I would miss the division. It's extremely difficult which is a great thing IMO

Looks like its all a pipe dream at least for the time being.

I hope people are bugging their friends/coworkers. I want to get this spot filled ASAP. Get someone in who can learn the team a little bit towards the end of the season so they can have an effective off-season of rebuilding.

This always seems to be an obstacle.  Most beginners are turned off once they realize that we use 'fake' players and not real NBA stats.  But you're right.  If they're analytical, into stats, strategy and the NBA then they'll love this shit.  I'm a long-time fantasy NBA guy - and this sim league tops everything that I've seen.

Me 2. Enjoy this more then any fantasy game.

Yep. Moves faster, more skill, lot of fun. Enjoy it a lot more than I ever thought I would.

Biggest problem when I try and sell people on the idea of joining.

I still miss Nick's retro league.  :'(

No matter wat eventually u lose nba players.

SSBA recycled them... Jordan Jr, Bird III, etc. Still not sure how I felt about it, felt just as "fake". I enjoy sim leagues no matter what, but I understand why people have a hard time when they can't "picture" their team.

 

SSBA did have retro drafts, but definitely not the juniors, iirc. But one of the opinions I received about it was that the mixed retro players and real players weren't that realistic either.

It wasn't the "real players" that my friend had a problem with it was the stats don't really resemble basketball in a lot of ways and that he wouldn't have the full control of his team that he would like.

For example our 3 point percentage is incredibly high, and big men fg percentage is incredibly low.  He would want the ability to tell his big guys not to shot, and the 3 point guys to take as many shots as they can etc.  Stuff like this and the stats not mirroring NBA was the issue he had.

That'd be incredibly difficult. I wish him luck in finding a simulation league with that much individual control that includes the features that we have here.

He played football manager which did have a lot, lot, lot of control.

"Hey Leith, take the ball to the hoop every fucking time."

Well, it would be nice to be able to tell your defensive big who turns it over 3 times a game to never shoot, I guess...but that's part of the downside of having that player.

Ivan make basket

Great movie

Bump.

Travis decided to quit a while ago, I guess. I had two people on a waitlist but neither of them are responding. If anyone has someone that they think would be a good fit for the league, let me know.

Would like to get this filled before the offseason so the new guy has a bit to figure out the league before being thrown right into offseason.

What teams are on the hot seat? Idk people yet by name very well.

Sorry - Pistons is open. He has some decent pieces, too.

I want this spot filled before the draft. Let's go. Bug your friends/coworkers.

Seriously, we need to get this spot filled before the off-season. This team has some decent pieces on it and I don't want to see it rot.

Shame the team no longer has a top 4 pick after it was gifted away. Would been a,pretty sexy asset to an incoming guy.

Yep, that team would be scary

my bad.

Travis' FU to the league on the way out the door?

I admit to being a little bitter about the deal with the Hawks, Pistons put the screws to me pretty good just to get one of my picks back, this seasons was "untouchable" until he decided he didn't want to be in the league anymore and traded a top pick in a deep draft for a middle of the road PG about to demand a big raise.

Screwed me, screwed the next GM of the Pistons and further skewed the power balance in the East. I like the guy outside of RBSL, but this is one of the bigger dick moves I've seen in my time here.

Well, to be fair, it wasn't that obvious that the pick was a top4 pick when it was traded, right? I forget. The Suns weren't tanking at that point, right? Not that I loved the deal either, but I didn't recall it being a lock top5 pick when it was traded - it just turned out that way.

My roster was exactly the same as it is today, I was clearly going to be in the bottom 2-3 teams, and he knew he was holding a top five pick. He also knew he was leaving the league.

This was nothing but poking the rest of the league in the eye by trading a top pick, in a far better than average draft, to one of the best teams in the league for a player that may have ended up in FA due to Hawks cap situation.

I busted my ass trying to get both picks back, nobody has forgotten the heat I took for my overpayment with Sundov and O'Quinn... Getting both my picks back in that deal would have been reasonable, but he barely agreed to send one pick back. But a day later he stops being so tight fisted and sends the better of the two picks he had to a GM that he doesn't particularly like and rarely deals with, for a non-impact PG?

It wasn't a gift to Lou, it was a fuck you to the other 27 GM's in the league, and the poor guy who takes over the Pistons.

Oh no, the pick was going to suck. I think that we all assumed his team had a shot at top 4 in the east when the season started though right? I mean his starting 5 wasn't bad at all.

Personally I don't think he traded that pick because he was leaving, Travis has never had any desire to help me out in anything sim related. I think he left because he made all these moves thinking he would kick ass and when his team bit the dick he peaced out.

As a sidenote, I'm not really sure the guy who takes over the Pistons is a "poor guy". He has a shot at 3 lotto picks in the next 2 years and guys he can definitely move for more.. It's not like he's taking over the Kings or Wizards who had no picks for 3 seasons.

P.S. I'm pretty sure Travis didn't particularly like anyone who isn't from the London people, so I'm not really upset by that comment.. lol

I thought the Pistons were a lock playoff team, and even had a shot to host a playoff round.

And I agree with Lou - that team has some talent and could be an easy rebuild (or move some pieces around and go for it with what it has)

Come on, bug your buddies.  Need this spot filled ASAP.

I'm having lunch with a sports junkie of mine and I'll try to convince him.

The fact Travis has never wanted to help you out is exactly why this deal smells so bad; he helped you out because it was the best way to stick it to the league on the way out the door.

He didn't want to make the Sundov deal because he didn't want to compete this year, he didn't want to give up my pick because he was "rebuilding". Then the next day he moves it to you for little in return, posts one depth chart and then quits without telling anyone?

No malice towards you, you're just the benefactor of someone else's league wide FU.

I mean in all fairness Travis and I were on much better terms now then say when he first started in the league.

If that's that case and he moved it to screw other people I honestly feel bad. I never really thought something like that would occur - he had been asking about Olajuwon for over a season..

This makes no sense to me. He has never been a fan of Lou so he does him a favor to stick it to the rest of the league? Wouldn't you stick it to the guy you didn't like, not the rest of the league (including Dan, his buddy)?

A little conspiracy theory is fun though!

Prove it by moving the pick to me  ;D  - You know, the GM that apparently can't even lose properly. Take pity on my failure!

I'm buying what Scott's selling here. But, whatever.

Jeff: the guy who wins so much he can't even lose properly.

Were the Wizards' trades before I got here out of malice? I came here without my next 2 1sts and nothing to really show for it.

Naw, just dumb.

Not malice, just a guy who overvalued his team. He traded for a first team player who was ~26 and another solid ~26 year old - he just couldn't figure out how to get his roster to work together. Two picks for guys like that is a fine deal if the team works out. He bet it would and he was wrong.

I don't buy this Pistons conspiracy theory; it just doesn't make sense to me.

What teams are on the hot seat?

I don't make stuff like that public - I think it's toxic to the league. I reach out to GMs privately with bad attendance and let them know what's expected of them.

Good point!

Travis apparently doesn't like me, so he trades me a pick just so he can screw over his actual friends and everyone else in the league? That's a pretty big stretch boys. My thought is he built this team thinking it would be so good and when it was shit in PS and Sim 1 he rage quit.. Scott you can relate right?

I absolutely agree with this (and I assume Dan can confirm this). He traded a good pick thinking his team was on the verge (and it looked like it was!) and then it crapped out a bit and he got mad and left.

What other expiation is there for making a trade that bad when you already know you're leaving the league?

He didn't even stick around to see how his new roster performed, and he left the league without even telling you he'd quit?  Doesn't sound like he much cared about the impact on the remaining GM's; if Dan hadn't talked him and told you we'd just be finding out now that he had quit.

Oh, he didn't make a single DC? Weird. I still don't get why he would screw over Dan like that. I think it's still a little tin foil hat for me, but it's interesting.

I just don't know why he'd pick me of all people to "throw" a pick at. Makes no sense to me in the least. Why would he ask for my starting PG and not trade it for some shitbag?

I mean I'd buy something like his interest was dwindling so he traded the pick for Olajuwon hoping he's the piece that brings it together, and when it didn't pay off immediately he just left.. The charity thing doesn't fit here at all. Also, why are we talking about Olajuwon like he's shit? When he traded for Olajuwon he was a 26yr old PG with A- DEF that came off a year of 4:1 (7th in APG) and was 9th in the league in SPG. He also made 4.5m which is exactly what travis needed because he couldn't add more salary being so snug to the cap.

One other thing.. If this trade was so ridiculous how did no-one comment on it? As Todd said we shit on every deal, yet this goes through perfectly clean until Travis quits? I think this is a perfect example of hindsight controlling the thought process. I don't disagree that him just disappearing was a totally shitty thing to do, but to chalk it up to a guy who wasn't a fan of me throwing charity my way just seems ridiculous. I think it's just a GM with years and years of shitty results thinking he had done everything in his power to make a good team and when it started poorly he sulked off into the sunset.

Too many things don't make sense with the deal, I don't know what his motivation was, but I'm certain it wasn't to try and improve his team for a run...

A) he was up against the cap (and still is), Olajuwon was an expiring contract, looking for a sizeable raise in the off-season
B) he didn't leave after his team failed to perform, he left before the season started, he just didn't tell anyone he was gone
C) Olajuwon is a good player, but he's still a 3 topg PG who doesn't score very well, plenty of those available for cheaper than a top five pick (which everyone had to know my pick would be). Shit, there's a better prospect at PG in the draft, for $10M cheaper per season

Like I said, I don't know what his motivation was, and I admit to being emotionally invested in this because it was my pick which he flat out refused to move (I barely got him to make the deal for next years which was a huge win for him). And I certainly don't blame Lou for accepting the offer.

But all those questions added to the fact he made the trade knowing he was leaving the league make it smell a little funny to me. It was a bad deal for the Pistons franchise, and considering that Olajuwon will be leaving in FA since there's no GM to resign him means it's a bad deal for the league as a whole.

I've met Travis in real life, and he's a friend of Dan and Jeff who are friends of mine, Travis is a good guy. That being said, leaving the league and not giving notice is a shitty move, making this deal knowing he was going is even worse. I've quit the league twice, so I don't fault him for that, but I've always done my best to leave my team, and the league, in as good a shape as possible for the next guy coming in.

Not a single person complained about the deal at the time so it can't have been as bad a deal as you're saying. I'd say Lou won the deal, but Olajuwon is very good and even high picks can turn out to be very "meh". Established good young players...

I'm bitter that he stopped playing without telling anyone. I think saying he "threw" the pick away purposefully to Lou is a bit out there.

Not a *single* person complained - and people complain about every single deal. 

In this league, for right or wrong, lotto picks are gold. And top five picks simply don't get traded.  I don't want to say that 13/9 PG's are a dime a dozen, but with 3 TOPG it's not like Olajuwon is a hot commodity, especially considering he was in the last year of his rookie contract.

Nobody knows what his motivation was but the fact is he traded a very valuable asset for a much less valuable piece on the eve of his departure from the league.  Any trade, especially a lopsided one, made by a GM who knows he's leaving the league when he makes the deal is going to be questioned.

As far as nobody commenting on the trade at the time... The two people who most often chime in are Lou, who was involved in the deal, and you, who was too busy ripping me for my trade with the Pistons. ;)  If the rest of the league knew that he had quit days after making this move I guarantee there would have been more chatter on the boards about it.

What's done is done; good for Lou, bad for the new PistonsGM, and not great for the league as a whole, and certainly not the Eastern conference.

Someone find me a PistonsGM please. I don't know how we got sidetracked. This is non productive.

Did you post in RealGM? lol that's how you snagged me.

I'm like the second to last post and I edited it.

He posted a sim1 DC, so he definitely started the season.

Also, Olajuwon was a 2.3TOPG PG, not 3 ;). Wasn't a rookie deal, he offered a sweet low first extension which also made him valuable.

this Dumbass debate needs to end. Travis left after rage quitting due to his team under performing. Yes T was a pain in the ass to negotiate with. Even with his close friends. Yes he left in a bad way. It's done. Let's get a new gm for the Pistons and move forward.

Yep.

Dan, if you had said that 4 pages ago I would have appreciated it!

ya I know. I hate posting from my phone.

I would not mind getting back in if you have an opening.

Good to have you here. I'm sure Chris will get back to you very soon.

Would you be interested in being an assistant GM until a spot opens up? I'm sure there would be some interested folks in having someone on board! (*cough* Lou)

That is fine with me.

You're more than welcome to join the Hawks squad

I wouldn't mind an assistant to be honest. Someone who would look at roster pages other than my own would probably be an asset.

Either team is fine with me if I am to choose than the Clips because he was one of the guys that recruited me many moons ago.

Welcome to the squad. Now get to work ;)

Ah memories! Just like old times.

Chris, one of the Gms in ssba has expressed interest in joining the league. He registered an account here.

Haha, helpful. He going to be an assistantGM for now or something? Got a waitlist of a few people already. Let me know.

You think all the people on the waiting list should need to be assistants first in order to be a GM? That'll include everyone and be realistic to real GMs & how they're hired.

Lol, no, but we've got two guys who took assistant spots until a spot opened up - so they're first in line. Lol.

Definitely not opposed to this. I actually told him that after he replied. I messaged him about a year ago on the forum when there were still some open spots here in RBSL. Not sure why he happen to have checked it recently since the league has long been dead. haha

It's your call, but something to think about. Nothing changes, other than instead of being on a waiting list (and potentially lose interest over time), they wait by being an assistant. Totally not my call though.

I think it's a cool offer to the new (and old) GMs who want to be involved, I would not make it mandatory.

Agreed

I'm so confused about the question, even. If there is an open spot and there is no one else on a waiting list, I would not "make" someone be an assistantGM first. However, we have two assistantGMs who are only doing that while they wait for teams to open up. They are first in line for new teams.

yes. I dont see any problem with this. I actually thought this was being implemented already? Why some gms question it?

Who's questioning it?

We're on the same page. If there's an opening, an assistant gets first dibs. No assistants, no need to be an assistant first.

Yep. Ok. I've been confused by this whole conversation. Glad everyone's on the same page. Frankly I love the aGM system.

so we r full again right

Yup, Kings is being filled by Jeff, with Bucks being taken over by a new GM.

Are you looking for a 3rd team?

that's funny no jw were league stands always like full league.

Rotflmao.

Lmao I bet  ;)

 ;D ;D

Bump.  5 openings, let me know if you have people interested! Aggressively posting in the usual places.

what are the 5 openings?

Raided reddit for some newbies - I think I'm just waiting on the guy who wanted Lakers to register. But if he flakes, we actually have someone on the waitlist!

I'm working on manipulating my Shadow AsstGM into joining and taking one of the squads.

Woo.

So - who's actually available, now. Nuggets. Lakers. Who else?

Leads to the possible necessity of doing a checkin. Good question.

Lakers
Suns
Nets
Clippers
Nuggets

as far as i know

Made reddit posts looking for new GMs: please upvote and/or comment

https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasybball/comments/5m7lns/off_topic_like_fantasy_basketball_you_might_enjoy/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Basketball/comments/5m3vyl/online_sim_basketball_league_fun_indepth_game/

https://www.reddit.com/r/BasketballGM/comments/5huilj/what_other_sim_games_do_you_guys_play/dc0mhxw/

Updated initial thread accordingly.  Many thanks to Jazz for keeping this up!

All open teams are FULL. The only opening (maybe) is the Hawks, as I believe he indicated he doesn't have much time anymore.

We still have lots of interest from Reddit but all teams are about to be full, so I will start on a waitlist. Alternatively, if any current team is open to taking on an assistant or co-gm, post here and I will add you to a list.

We now have a spot open for the Nets, so if any of the new guys have any friends who would be interested, get them in here!