Expectations

[OldCelticsGM]

I'm in for cracking down on chronic tankers, it's more realistic as it has been discussed. And based on what's discussed, there's plenty of wiggle room. Worst case scenario hang out until another team becomes available and become the new GM there. Even if a top 5 pick player isn't an instant hall of fame guy, he's still likely to be a starter or super-sub and just the fact that he's able to get a spot on your rotation is worth the top 5 pick....then you look to Free Agency, Cap Management to build around...you don't just say fuck this shit and tank again to gamble at another top 5 guy, chances are you'll get a 10-13th pick and pick up yet another rotation guy. Chronic tanking is worse than rage quitting. I am very aware that I'm pandemically 6-10th in the East, so I finally admitted that I needed a rebuilding year, and still ended up being 10th in the East lol. The "real drafts" and the chronic tankers both work to keep me in my place because it's the two aspects of the sim that can be gamed in unrealistic ways. You want to succeed in RBSL, be a good tanker, or position yourself for the next real player draft....all other strategies suck with the exception of a few instances of luck.

I couldn't even trade very some decent quality guys on my roster this year...for instance 0 offers on Christopher Cho (thanks, but I'll keep him now).

very well said and very true.

[MagicGM]

The question *was* definitely worded poorly.  Shocker. 

Anyone else with thoughts should chime in.

[WizardsGM]

The question *was* definitely worded poorly.  Shocker. 

Anyone else with thoughts should chime in.

I'll say it again. I think it would be great for the league.

[BucksGM]

I think maybe we should run another poll and make sure to really nail down exactly where everyone stands on this. This is a really important discussion so we should really try to get it right. Something like:
"What is your stance on adding a overarching, record-based performance system, in the spirit of CelticsGM's proposal, to incentivize playoff appearances with the possibility of GM firing if the criteria is not met?"
A. Strongly desire such a system
B. Slightly prefer such a system
C. Strongly oppose such a system
D. Slightly oppose such a system
E. No preference

Feel free to suggest tweaks to the question to make it as neutral as possible.

It seems like we have some GMs who are VERY for or against this but it would be nice to see how many are on the fence or don't feel as strongly as many of the posters in this thread.

[MagicGM]

I would suggest adding "and disincentivize repeated, extreme tanking (e.g., less than [25] wins)" (wherever the negative gets seriously negative, maybe -100 points?)

[ExNuggetsGM]

My two cents instead of wasting your time with a point system just get 5 GM's together and vote on it. Because putting a point system could end up backfiring latter down the line no matter how tough you make it to get fired.

[WizardsGM]

My two cents instead of wasting your time with a point system just get 5 GM's together and vote on it. Because putting a point system could end up backfiring latter down the line no matter how tough you make it to get fired.

I believe there would be a staff to vote (after the point system was put into use/GM goes down to 0 points) for the purpose of making sure there'd be no backfiring. If you deserve to be here, you'll continue to be here. Celtics also made a valid point that it's not like you're banned. You could hop right back on and GM another team.

[BucksGM]

My two cents instead of wasting your time with a point system just get 5 GM's together and vote on it. Because putting a point system could end up backfiring latter down the line no matter how tough you make it to get fired.

The benefit of the point system is everyone knows where they stand and it's 100% fair and objective.

[BlazersGM]

Forget committee's. That's another nightmare waiting to happen.

[MagicGM]

Forget committee's. That's another nightmare waiting to happen.

Agree.  Then it looks personal.